What does combat leadership have to do with running a business? More than you think.
In this episode of the American Operator Podcast, Bret Boyd—West Point graduate, Army Ranger, and founder of Sustainment—shares how his experience in war shaped the way he builds teams, leads people, and is now working to rebuild American manufacturing.
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